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		<title>How to Import Firefox Bookmarks into Safari 4 Beta in Windows</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale Dietrich</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Firefox is my mainstay browser, I pretty much use all current browsers from time to time both to test my various websites for compatibility and to keep current with what’s new in the browser wars. 
I recently installed the Safari 4 beta. In earlier versions of Safari, there was always an option to import [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.daleisphere.com/wp-content/uploads/image142.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px; border-left: 0px; margin: 0px auto; display: block; float: none; border-top: 0px; border-right: 0px" title="hot to import firefox bookmarks in safari 4 beta in windows" border="0" alt="hot to import firefox bookmarks in safari 4 beta in windows" src="http://www.daleisphere.com/wp-content/uploads/image-thumb105.png" width="406" height="213" /></a>While Firefox is my mainstay browser, I pretty much use all current browsers from time to time both to test my various websites for compatibility and to keep current with what’s new in the browser wars. </p>
<p>I recently installed the <a href="http://www.apple.com/safari/download/">Safari 4 beta</a>. In earlier versions of Safari, there was always an option to import bookmarks from IE or Firefox during the installation process. Not-so with the Safari 4 beta install. </p>
<p><strong>Note:</strong> I purposely uninstalled Safari 3 before installing Safari 4. My hope was to get a fresh import of my most current Firefox bookmarks in the process. That didn’t work.</p>
<p>I use <a href="http://www.xmarks.com/">xmarks</a> (formerly foxmarks)&#160; to synchronize my bookmarks between computers. While there is an <a href="http://blog.foxmarks.com/?p=705">xmarks beta client for use on the Mac</a>, so far there is none for the PC.</p>
<p>Here’s the easiest way I could find to import Firefox bookmarks into the Safari 4 beta:</p>
<h3>In Firefox:</h3>
<ul>
<li>Click on Bookmarks</li>
<li>Click on ‘Organize Bookmarks’ (Ctrl-Shift-B)</li>
<li>Click on ‘Export HTML…’ under the ‘Import and Backup’ pull-down menu</li>
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<li>Firefox will generate a ‘bookmarks.html’ file and ask you where to save it</li>
<li>Save it to the Desktop</li>
</ul>
<h3>In Safari 4 Beta:</h3>
<ul>
<li>If your menu bar is hidden, click on the ‘preferences cog’&#160; on the top right and select ‘Show Menu Bar’</li>
<li>Click File</li>
<li>Click ‘Import Bookmarks…’</li>
<li>Select the ‘bookmarks.html’ file from your Desktop</li>
<li>The Firefox bookmarks will then import into Safari</li>
<li>Click on the ‘Bookmarks’ icon on the top left of Safari to see the imported bookmarks. They will listed under the heading called ‘imported [date]’ where date is the date you imported them on. You can rename this as you see fit.</li>
</ul>
<h3>Bookmarks Toolbar Issue:</h3>
<p>If, as I do, you access bookmarks and bookmark folders from your Firefox bookmark toolbar, the Safari 4 Beta’s bookmarks toolbar will not, unfortunately, be populated with the contents of your Firefox bookmark toolbar from this import process. </p>
<p>The Firefox bookmark toolbar is still imported, however. You’ll find it at the bottom of your imported bookmarks list under the heading ‘Bookmarks Toolbar’.</p>
<p>You can drag and drop each item in the ‘Bookmarks Toolbar’ heading to Safari’s bookmark toolbar. This works for individual links as well as bookmark folders. Within minutes you’ll be able to reconstruct a working bookmark toolbar just as it appears in Firefox.</p>
<h3>Bookmarks Will be Static: </h3>
<p>Until xmarks comes out with a Safari 4 plugin for Windows, the imported bookmarks will, of course, be static. But, the process is simple. I’ll likely use this manual import process every few months to keep my bookmarks manually synced.</p>
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		<title>Synchronize Firefox 3 Bookmarks with foxmarks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dale Dietrich</dc:creator>
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[July 7, 2008 Update: I discuss the foxmarks beta version below. Foxmarks is now out of beta and available as a normal add-on for Firefox 3.&#160; You can download it here.] 
[May 2009 Update: Foxmarks is now named xmarks and can be downloaded here.]
Last year I became an enthusiastic user of Google Browser Sync (GBS). [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>[July 7, 2008 Update: I discuss the foxmarks beta version below. Foxmarks is now out of beta and available as a normal add-on for Firefox 3.&#160; You can download it </strong><strong><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410">here</a></strong><strong>.] </strong></p>
<p><strong>[May 2009 Update: </strong>Foxmarks is now named xmarks and can be downloaded <a href="http://www.xmarks.com/">here</a>.<strong>]</strong></p>
<p>Last year I became an enthusiastic user of <a href="http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/">Google Browser Sync</a> (GBS). It effortlessly synced my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox">Firefox</a> bookmarks, passwords, browsing history and cookies across my several desktop and laptop computers.</p>
<p>When I tested Firefox 3, beta 4 in April I was saddened to discover that GBS didn&#8217;t work with Firefox 3. Mozilla has completely changed how the bookmarking system works in Firefox. <strike>As far as I can tell, Google has not announced plans to update GBS despite numerous bloggers and forum participants beseeching Google to do so (see for example </strike><a href="http://www.grantmidwinter.com/2008/04/02/google-browser-sync-for-firefox-3/#1"><strike>here</strike></a><strike> and </strike><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Firefox-Extensions/browse_thread/thread/1c597fa1b6c8a420"><strike>here</strike></a><strike>).      <br /></strike><strong>[July 7 Update: Google announced several weeks ago that it will no longer provide GBS for Firefox.]</strong></p>
<h3>Weave Didn&#8217;t Work for Me</h3>
<p>So I downloaded Mozilla&#8217;s newest beta software, <a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/introducing-weave/">Weave</a>, that promised to synchronize my bookmarks (latest version 0.1.28 available <a href="https://labs.mozilla.com/forum/index.php/topic,657.0.html">here</a> &#8211; ars technica setup instructions <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071223-hands-on-with-mozilla-weave-personalize-your-own-cloud.html?rel">here</a> &#8211; poorly reviewed <a href="http://www.pathf.com/blogs/2008/04/spending-time-w/">here</a> &#8211; but working for <a href="http://benworks.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/firefox-3-rc1-and-extensions-revisited/" target="_blank">this guy</a> and <a href="http://www.appscout.com/2008/06/hands_on_weave_for_firefox_3.php">this blogger</a>). Despite hours of frustration I couldn&#8217;t get it to work &#8211; at all.</p>
<p>Lastly, I looked to <a href="http://www.foxmarks.com/">foxmarks</a> but, at the time, the Firefox 3 version was in private beta only.</p>
<p>So, without a means to synchronize my bookmarks and given the <a href="http://www.daleisphere.com/2008/05/25/work-around-for-firefox-3s-open-in-tabs-overwrite-bug/">Firefox 3 ‘Open in Tabs’ Overwrite Bug</a> that I previously wrote about, I fell back (tail between my legs) to using Firefox 2 &#8211; memory leaks and all.</p>
<p><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px 5px 0px 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="Firefox 3 logo" align="left" src="http://www.daleisphere.com/wp-content/uploads/firefox-3-logo.jpg" width="104" height="68" /> With the release of <a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html">Firefox 3, RC1</a> I couldn&#8217;t wait any longer. I installed it expecting to use Firefox, for a time, without synchronized bookmarks &#8211; quite dispiriting given how I&#8217;ve become reliant on it for cross-system synchronization.</p>
<h3>foxmarks for Firefox 3 Now Available <strike>in Public Beta</strike></h3>
<p><strike>After installing </strike><a href="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html"><strike>Firefox 3, RC1</strike></a><strike> </strike><strong>[Update: download current version <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410">here</a>]</strong> I was happy to discover that a public beta for the Firefox 3 version of foxmarks was now underway. I installed it on my computers and it worked. It continues to work without incident across all of my Visa x64 and XP PCs.</p>
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<p> <span id="more-498"></span>Assuming you have installed Firefox 3 on each of your computers, all you need to do is sign up for a free foxmarks account <a href="http://login.foxmarks.com/account/create_account?i=&amp;referrer=http%3A%2F%2Flogin.foxmarks.com%2Faccount">here</a>, <a href="http://login.foxmarks.com/">login</a>, <a href="http://beta.foxmarks.com/program/firefox3">download</a> and install the foxmarks extension (available <a href="http://beta.foxmarks.com/program/firefox3">here</a> &#8211; after <a href="http://login.foxmarks.com/account/create_account?i=&amp;referrer=http%3A%2F%2Flogin.foxmarks.com%2Faccount">sign up</a>) into Firefox 3 on each of your computers.
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<p>Once installed you will need to configure it. There are only a few configuration steps. You&#8217;ll be asked whether you want to discard bookmarks from any of your&#160; computers before your first sync<strong> </strong>or if you want to merge them all. Since my bookmarks were already synced with GBS it didn&#8217;t really matter which option I chose &#8211; I chose the merging option. Also, for test purposes, I added a couple bookmarks and deleted a few on various computers to see if the sync would work. The sync was perfect and has been perfect ever since.</p>
<p>Given that this is beta software, I strongly urge you to backup your Firefox bookmarks (as I did) before synching for the first time.</p>
<p>It takes less than a minute for the first synchronization (much faster than GBS was &#8211; but this could be because the bookmarks were already in sync &#8211; the heavy lifting had been previously done with GBS) and thereafter foxmarks keeps your Firefox 3 browsers&#8217; bookmarks synced behind the scenes with no effort or further involvement. It just works.</p>
<p>Foxmarks does not synchronize passwords and history like GBS did but, as I understand it, plans are in the works to add these in future versions of the software.</p>
<h3>Looking Forward</h3>
<p><strike>I may very well return to GBS in the future. </strike>I have standardized on several Google solutions including <a href="http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/var_1c.html">Google Apps</a> (as my email and calendar host), synchronizing Gmail with Outlook 2007 <a href="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=75725">using iMap</a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en-ie&amp;answer=89955">Google Calendar Sync</a> to keep my Outlook 2007 calendar synched with Google Calendar. When the <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/04/29/tech-iphone-rogers.html">iPhone is finally available in Canada</a> I&#8217;m hoping to sync my Firefox bookmarks with the iPhone browser. Given <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/iphone_application.html">Google&#8217;s commitment to iPhone apps</a> I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they are the first to make this possible.</p>
<p>In the meantime foxmarks the spot! <img src='http://www.daleisphere.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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